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(gun fires) (gun fires) – One of the places where recoil is really important is when you wanna shoot fast.
And if you wanna talk about shooting fast, you talk with Max Michel.
That's your specialty man.
– I appreciate it Tom, you bet.
– Alright so you broughtsome of your guns, some of your ammo.
Let's look at what you have 'cause you got three different guns.
What three different types of events? – Exactly in my sport, i'm a pistol guy but there's so many different divisons and competitions you can compete within.
And you have to have the optimal equipment for each one of those divisions.
– Alright, walk me through what you got here.
– Right so what we have first is our Sig Sauer P320.
This would be equivalent to the production division.
And in the production division it has to be pretty much a stock gun.
(gun fires) – Alright, so that's forone type of shooting.
– Alright let's go start on the other end over here.
– This is our Sig Sauer 1911 MAX.
– [Tom] The Max, as in you.
– [Max] As in Max.
So this is the model I designed a couple years ago.
I'm extremely excited about it obviously.
It's the perfect gun, because it's my gun.
– Of course [laughing].
Okay now what do you have here that helps with recoil? – Right so with recoilwhat you're gonna see is here because we don't have a bull-barrel, what I did is I put in aguide rod system there.
The gun has to make weight, okay? So you can't go too heavy with a tungsten guide rod or anything like that.
But I did put a guide rod in that allows me to still make weight but put a little bit of weight on the end of the muzzle there.
But more importantly the grip choice that I went with.
So as far as the grip goes I have a very aggressivetraction on the grip.
Whether it be the checkering or the grip itself.
And the reason why that is, is just to enhance the grip in my hand, so that way when I'm shooting at a high-rate of speed, the gun will flip less in my hand.
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– Now, this one.
– So this one here isagain a Sig Sauer model.
It's a custom model.
Specifically built for me.
It's essentially the 1911 MAX lower.
And what we've done is we'vechanged the top-end completely.
So now we went from.
38 Super is just a slightly longer case, a little bit more pressure, but with a comp.
you're able to jet that gas out, it keeps the muzzle down? – Exactly, so the cool thing about a compensator Tom, is what happens is as the round leaves the barrel, the gases are not just following that round out of the chamber.
What's happening is the baffles in the compensator is actually jetting the forces upwards.
So essentially what's happening is the guns trying to liftup and back and recoil.
As the gases are comingthrough the chamber, it's pushing forward on the baffles and down into the compensator which is making it lift less.
It's not allowing it to lift as high as it wants to.
– So obviously this is a speed rig.
Now you do a demo where you have three targets up and shoot like six, six and six? – Yeah I call it triple six Tom.
Six rounds on one target, reload, six rounds on another target, reload.
And six rounds on a final target.
So 18 rounds, a draw, two reloads.
Lot's of things happening there.
Mostly recoil management process.
– I know you do it with this but you also do it with this gun.
This is pretty much astock, out of a box gun.
So if you're gonna show me, how to hold onto that gun to manage recoil, what am I needing to learn? – So basically what I'm looking for is taking the web of my firing hand and placing it as high as possible on the back-strap of the pistol.
Then just in front of that middle knuckle it's gonna go underneath the trigger guard, just like so.
Now you notice that I keep my thumb up high there.
A lot of folks like to rest their thumb down low.
What happens there, as you do that it gives your support hand no room to get in there.
So I need my thumb to stay up high 'cause the most important part of the two handed grip when you don't have these compensators, is your support hand.
And that's acting as your compensator is what I always like to say.
So the third point of contact is gonna be that nice nasty little, – Where you got a callous right here.
– That nice nastylittle callous, exactly.
Place that underneath the trigger guard just like so, and themore important part now is to make sure you roll those thumbs toward the down-range area.
And what that's gonna do, by rolling those thumbs toward the down-range area, it's gonna physically force my support hand, my wrist, at a downwards of 45 degree angle downward.
Now as the guns trying to lift up and back and recoil that traction on the gun we talked about, whether is be the 1911 grips or the stippling or grip tape, whatever you might wanna use at home for your pistols, is gonna bite against that support palm.
And as the guns trying to lift up and back I already have that torque or that downward pressure with that traction and it's not gonna allow the pistol to lift quite as high as it wants to.
– Very cool, well you got nine,.
Doesn't matter what you're shooting, ya know, use all you can for the rules but you still have to be able to shoot the gun and manage the recoil.
– Exactly, it's all up to you.
It starts from the feet all the way up to the hands.
And it's just a large recoil management process.
But it all has to work in unison with one another.
– Thanks a bunch Max.
– You bet Tom, thanks for having me.
(gun fires) (gun fires) (gun fires) – When you talk about recoil there's two different factors.
One, there's the movement of the gun rear-ward and there's the muzzle flip.
And a lot of the time we're worried about the wrong thing.
Muzzle flip is what limits our ability to shoot quickly.
The energy being put into your body and moving you rear-ward almost always creates aproblem of muzzle flip.
Because if you could keep the gun on line and move back and never have the gun move up and down, you wouldn't care that you moved back and forth.
So worry more about muzzle flip.
The strength in your wrist is way more important than the strength in the rest of your arms.